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    选择 0滴只看楼主 fmri 于2009-10-16 11:02     
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    Sequential Processing of Lexical, Grammatical, and Phonological Information Within Broca’s Area
    颅内脑电的研究越来越多了

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1174481

    Sequential Processing of Lexical, Grammatical, and Phonological Information Within Broca’s Area
    Ned T. Sahin,1,2,* Steven Pinker,2 Sydney S. Cash,3 Donald Schomer,4 Eric Halgren1
    Words, grammar, and phonology are linguistically distinct, yet their neural substrates are difficult to distinguish in macroscopic brain regions. We investigated whether they can be separated in time and space at the circuit level using intracranial electrophysiology (ICE), namely by recording local field potentials from populations of neurons using electrodes implanted in language-related brain regions while people read words verbatim or grammatically inflected them (present/past or singular/plural). Neighboring probes within Broca’s area revealed distinct neuronal activity for lexical (~200 milliseconds), grammatical (~320 milliseconds), and phonological (~450 milliseconds) processing, identically for nouns and verbs, in a region activated in the same patients and task in functional magnetic resonance imaging. This suggests that a linguistic processing sequence predicted on computational grounds is implemented in the brain in fine-grained spatiotemporally patterned activity.
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  • 选择 1滴只看该作者 sisi  于2009-10-16 15:46     
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    这个研究结果上周五被大老板引用来着
    说明Broca区域的功能在时间和空间上面的动态变化
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    选择 2滴只看该作者 zude  于2009-10-16 16:01     
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    好像中大两位老师就是在最后一位作者的实验室里访问,这个实验室做了不少工作,各种技术都很齐全

    fmri对语言感兴趣?
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    选择 3滴只看该作者 touchalix  于2009-10-16 17:30     
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    回 楼主(fmri)

    这段时间语言领域不断有重量级的文章出现!
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    选择 4滴只看该作者 fmri 于2009-10-16 19:42     
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    Hagoort在science上写了文章介绍这个研究

    @zude: 我都不知道他们去了哪......
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    选择 5滴只看该作者 tangnuo 于2009-10-17 11:16     
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    New Study Solves Brain Mystery  作者:Rick Nauert PhD

    New Study Solves Brain Mystery  作者:Rick Nauert PhD

    Scientists report a significant breakthrough in explaining how the brain processes language.

    Researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine say their study provides a clear picture of how the brain processes information. Their results are published in the current issue of the journal Science.

    “Two central mysteries of human brain function are addressed in this study: one, the way in which higher cognitive processes such as language are implemented in the brain and, two, the nature of what is perhaps the best-known region of the cerebral cortex, called Broca’s area,” said first author Ned T. Sahin, PhD.

    The study demonstrates that a small piece of the brain can compute three different things at different times – within a quarter of a second – and shows that Broca’s area doesn’t just do one thing when processing language.

    The discoveries came through the researchers’ use of a rare procedure in which electrodes were placed in the brains of patients. The technique allowed surgeons to know which small region of the brain to remove to alleviate their seizures, while sparing the healthy regions necessary for language. Recordings for research purposes were then made while the patients were awake and responsive.

    The procedure, called Intra-Cranial Electrophysiology (ICE), allowed the researchers to resolve brain activity related to language with spatial accuracy down to the millimeter and temporal accuracy down to the millisecond.

    This is the first experiment to use ICE to document how the human brain computes grammar and produces words.

    Because complex language is unique to humans, it has been difficult to investigate its neural mechanisms. Brain-imaging methods such as functional MRI are generally all that are possible to use in humans, but they blur the activity of thousands or millions of neurons over long periods of time.

    Consequently, scientists have been unable to determine in detail whether the mechanisms used by linguistic or computational models to produce grammatically correct speech correspond to the mechanisms that the brain actually uses.

    For this study, the researchers recorded activity inside patients’ brains while they repeated words verbatim or produced them in grammatical forms such as past tense or plural – a task that humans effortlessly compute every time they utter a sentence.

    ICE enabled the authors to look at three components of language processing in real time, to determine whether related neuronal activities were implemented serially or in parallel, in local or distributed patterns.

    “We showed that distinct linguistic processes are computed within small regions of Broca’s area, separated in time and partially overlapping in space,” said Sahin. Specifically, the researchers found patterns of neuronal activity indicating lexical, grammatical and articulatory computations at roughly 200, 320 and 450 milliseconds after the target word was presented. These patterns were identical across nouns and verbs and consistent across patients.

    “The first evidence that parts of the brain may correspond to parts of the the mind was the discovery that patients with damage to Broca’s area were unable to talk but could still think. In the 150 years since this discovery, progress in understanding what precisely Broca’s area contributes to language has been disappointing,” said principal investigator Eric Halgren, PhD, professor in the UCSD Department of Radiology.

    “These results suggest that Broca’s area actually consists of several overlapping parts, performing distinct computational steps in a tightly timed choreography, a dance that may simply have been undetectable due to the level of resolution of previous methods.”

    According to Sahin, the results help dispel a commonly taught notion that Broca’s area handles expressive language (speaking) while another part of the cortex called Wernicke’s area handles receptive language (reading and hearing). This notion is still taught in many textbooks.

    “Our task involved both reading and speaking, and we found that aspects of word identity, grammar and pronunciation are all computed within Broca’s area. Crucially, information about the identity of a printed word arrives in Broca’s area very quickly after it is seen, in parallel with its arrival in Wernicke’s. It has been clear for some time that the expressive/receptive model is out of date, and now it is clearer that Broca’s area has several roles, in both expressive and receptive language,” said Sahin.
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    选择 6滴只看该作者 faust 于2009-10-17 16:07     
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    只能说明broca区被低估了,但不能说这些加工只在broca区进行。是不是他们只能在病人的broca区放电极?
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    选择 7滴只看该作者 sisi  于2009-10-17 16:51     
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    引用第4楼fmri于2009-10-16 19:42发表的  :
    Hagoort在science上写了文章介绍这个研究

    @zude: 我都不知道他们去了哪......

    好像是同一天发表的
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    选择 8滴只看该作者 faust 于2009-10-17 17:01     
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    这篇文章告诉我们,用什么研究,什么烂fmri和erp啊,什么动物模型啊,都没有直接把人开颅插电极来得快。
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    选择 9滴只看该作者 fmri 于2009-10-17 18:02     
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    @sisi: 就是同一期上的
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    选择 10滴只看该作者 psymaria 于2009-10-20 15:10     
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    Science:将线路植入大脑解析语言系统工作机理

    http://www.bioon.com/biology/neuroscience/412455.shtml

    日前,有科学家通过在癫痫病人大脑内插入一系列线路,成功提取出了一套有关大脑如何处理语言的高分辨率图片。尽管这些图片只是显示了人类大脑功能中很少的一部分,但这套图片足以帮助科学家来了解人类大脑语言中枢是如何处理多种任务的。

    加州大学圣地牙哥分校(University of California,  San Diego)的认知科学家内德·沙辛(Ned Sahin)表示:“大脑的同一个部分能够在不同的时间处理不同的事物,是因为大脑的组织能力非常高。”

    在周四出版的美国《科学》杂志当中,沙辛的团队对被称为布洛卡氏区(Broca’s center)的大脑中枢进行了研究。1865年,法国解剖学家皮埃尔·保尔·布罗卡(Paul Pierre Broca)通过观察两个大脑受损病人发现,在额叶受损的情况下,他们仍然能够进行思考,但是却丧失了语言能力,于是他确定大脑语言功能位于额叶的一个部分。这一部分因此也被称为布洛卡氏区。

    1865年布罗卡发现布洛卡氏区之后,对于大脑该区域的研究相对来说有所增加,这也是使得人们对这一部分在语言组织中扮演何种角色有了更进一步的认识。但是一直以来,科学家对布洛卡氏区的内部活动却是知之甚少。由于语言是人类特有的功能,因而有关语言的科学实验并不能以其他动物做实验载体。目前,解读人类大脑活动的标准工具是功能性磁共振成像  (fMRI)技术,该技术虽然能够帮助突出显示大脑参与认知任务的区域活动图,但是却无法具体查明这些区域的内部活动情况。

    而沙辛的团队针对这个区域进行研究时独辟蹊径,他们采用了颅内电气生理学(intra-cranial  electrophysiology)的相关技术来解读大脑活动。通过这种技术,研究人员能够将大脑内活跃的部位用电极进行标识。该技术以前一直主要应用于医学领域,这还是其首次用于研究领域。此前,医学人员一直利用该技术来衡量癫痫病人大脑内的电磁活动,进而准确的找出病人大脑内的哪个部分需要通过外科手术来切除,以防止病人的癫痫病病情恶化。尽管这种技术侵害性较强、危险性也较大,但是它却能够使沙辛的团队有机会窥探人类大脑在处理语言的奥秘。

    在此次试验中,病人只需坐在病床上,眼睛盯着笔记本电脑的显示屏。随后研究人员会将一些电线插入到病人的头部内。随着试验的进行,研究人员就能通过电线传回的信息对大脑细胞的活动情况进行观察了。沙辛称:“我们能够如此近距离的观察到真实的神经元数据,这是非常难以置信的事情。打个比方说,这就好比我们通过一台近距高速摄像机,观察到的不仅仅是蜂鸟飞向花朵的整个过程,还能清晰地看到它每次震动翅膀的画面。”

    此次试验中,共有三名病人在麻省总医院接受了测试,时间长达数天。在这段时间内,沙辛的团队要求他们逐字复述一些单词,并且还要把这些单词的过去式和现在式也要表述出来。研究人员们发现,在四分之一秒的时间内,布洛卡氏区中有一小部分区域接收到了每个单词,而且每个单词的时态也是正确的。这个区域也是研究人员唯一能够通过电极来解读的部分,随后该区域又把这些单词发送到了语言中枢。

    沙辛表示,这次实验只不过测试了语言认知中的一种类型,因此所获结果不可避免的会有局限性,但是却足以证明布洛卡氏区不仅仅是负责翻译语言,同时还负责接收语言。  此前,研究人员一直认为接收语言主要是韦尼克区(Wernicke's area)的职责。

    不过,从更广义的角度来看,这次实验可能代表了布洛卡氏区的基本规则,也可能是其他脑部地区的基本规则:即大脑的每个区域实际上是扮演着多重角色,而不是只负责单一某种功能。

    沙辛表示:“这与A部分负责实施A任务的模式是不同的,相反,  A部分也有可能会负责实施A、B和C任务。”

    马普协会(Max Planck Institute)的两位认知科学家彼特·哈古特(Peter Hagoort)及威廉·列维特(Willem Levelt)在评论沙辛团队的研究成果时表示,“从布洛卡的最初观察开始,在神经系统基础结构方面所取得的进展就一直很少,因而也无法证明它能够支持语言的翻译和床单。沙辛团队的研究成果在这方面‘迈出了第一步’。”

    沙辛表示,其团队在今后会继续利用颅内电气生理学技术进行研究,研究的区域将会扩大到大脑其他部分,以及布洛卡氏区在听音乐及运动过程中所扮演的角色。研究人员们希望其研究成果除了揭示人类大脑复杂的活动过程外,还能够将其用于治疗语言障碍。

    沙辛表示:“对于能够解开人类大脑功能的部分谜团,我感到非常高兴。不过,我也知道,每当我们解开人类大脑谜团的一部分,它就会变得更加复杂。”


    Science 16 October 2009:DOI: 10.1126/science.1174481

    Sequential Processing of Lexical, Grammatical, and Phonological Information Within Broca’s Area

    Ned T. Sahin,1,2,* Steven Pinker,2 Sydney S. Cash,3 Donald Schomer,4 Eric Halgren1

    Words, grammar, and phonology are linguistically distinct, yet their neural substrates are difficult to distinguish in macroscopic brain regions. We investigated whether they can be separated in time and space at the circuit level using intracranial electrophysiology (ICE), namely by recording local field potentials from populations of neurons using electrodes implanted in language-related brain regions while people read words verbatim or grammatically inflected them (present/past or singular/plural). Neighboring probes within Broca’s area revealed distinct neuronal activity for lexical (~200 milliseconds), grammatical (~320 milliseconds), and phonological (~450 milliseconds) processing, identically for nouns and verbs, in a region activated in the same patients and task in functional magnetic resonance imaging. This suggests that a linguistic processing sequence predicted on computational grounds is implemented in the brain in fine-grained spatiotemporally patterned activity.

    1 Department of Radiology, University of California–San Diego, La Jolla, CA 92037, USA.
    2 Department of Psychology, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138, USA.
    3 Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA 02114, USA.
    4 Department of Neurology, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Boston, MA 02215, USA.
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  • 选择 11滴只看该作者 billchou 于2009-10-24 23:34     
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    我是搞语言的,也是脑科学的外行,还请大侠们多多关照。
    从Neighboring probes within Broca’s area revealed distinct neuronal activity for lexical (~200 milliseconds), grammatical (~320 milliseconds), and phonological (~450 milliseconds) processing想到了乔治拉考夫教授质疑乔姆斯基的一个问题:语言中的意义更加基本还是形式更加基本,是否更快的反应时间能证明一些东西。
    本人支持沙辛教授说的:“每当我们解开人类大脑谜团的一部分,它就会变得更加复杂。”这和罗杰朋罗斯教授的那本旧书《皇帝新脑》中的预言是一致的。呵呵。就算什么时候用纳米机器人搞清楚大脑内部每个神经元的运动也不算完全掌握了脑。。。。。。因为你还是不知道每个脑分子,原子,原子核,电子,夸克们此刻都在干些什么(量子力学有测不准原理啊)。。。。。。而deconstruction process 永无止境啊,难道真理在每个层级都相对。。。。。。
    谁能告诉我e-prime去哪里下载,论坛里的那位仁兄用的米盘链接根本不能下啊,谢谢好心人啦。
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    选择 12滴只看该作者 思思 于2009-11-02 23:40     
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